Minutes of ldip conference call 1:00-1:45 Eastern, 2/24/06 

Attendees: 

Tony Pan 
Bob Leif 
Joe Messino 
Andy Lowe 
Bill Moore 
Al Floyd 
Kemp Watson 
Jules Berman 

1. Minutes of 1-27-06 conference call were approved (pending spelling
corrections).  
2. Status report (from Jules Berman) 

3. CDE discussion. 

It was decided that we'd reconstitute the existing CDE task groups,
providing task group leaders with additional members as needed.  
The specimen task group now consists of Al Floyd and Bill Moore and
will be working to provide a list of common data elements for review
in the near future.  
Jules will contact the clinical CDE group leader (Bruce Beckwith) who
was not present for the call to make sure that this group can move
forward.  
Tony Pan and the file group will work on the file CDEs, using RDF for
the Dublin Core elements and SAML for the authentication/security
elements.  
We've had a bit of discussion of how to represent binary image data,
and Kemp Watson will work with his group to come up with an approach
(and elements) for describing the binary.  
Bob Leif said that his config files from the CytometryML will be of
value, and he will send those around again.  
Jules said that he would send around the RDF for Dublin Core and the
published listing of HL7 CDEs (see addendum)  
Our priority will be to get the file, clinical and specimen CDEs as
soon as possible, add them to the RDF model and then, once the RDF
model is fleshed out, create an XML schema.  Kemp Watson will report
on the binary descriptors when his group has made some progress.  
4. The Lab Infotech summit (Las Vegas) and the APIII meeting
(Vancouver) were discussed.  Jules stressed that the APIII meeting
would cover LDIP in three different venues during the meeting.  The
LabInfoTech summit would have some imaging discussion (UL Balis) would
was not scheduling time specifically for LDIP work.  
- Jules 

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Addendum 

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As discussed in the conference call, I am sending a URL that explains
how the Dublin Core elements (basic file elements that should be in
every xml document) are implemented in RDF.  
http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmes-xml/ 

The example, from the URL is self-explanatory: 

<?xml version="1.0"?> 
<!DOCTYPE rdf:RDF PUBLIC "-//DUBLIN CORE//DCMES DTD 2002/07/31//EN" 
"http://dublincore.org/documents/2002/07/31/dcmes-xml/dcmes-xml-dtd.dtd">
<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"      
xmlns:dc ="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">  <rdf:Description
rdf:about="http://dublincore.org/">    <dc:title>Dublin Core Metadata
Initiative - Home Page</dc:title>    <dc:description>The Dublin Core
Metadata Initiative Web site.</dc:description>   
<dc:date>2001-01-16</dc:date>    <dc:format>text/html</dc:format> 
<dc:language>en</dc:language> 
<dc:contributor>The Dublin Core Metadata Initiative</dc:contributor> 
<!-- guesses for the translation of the above titles --> 
<dc:title xml:lang="fr">L'Initiative de métadonnées du Dublin
Core</dc:title>    <dc:title xml:lang="de">der Dublin-Core
Metadata-Diskussionen</dc:title>  </rdf:Description> 
</rdf:RDF> 

HL7 cross-compatibility was discussed briefly during the conference
call.  I personally have spent a bit of time looking at HL7, and I
really don't see much overlap between HL7 and LDIP.  If my perception
is wrong, I would very much appreciate if someone would explain what
I've been missing and how we should be using and working with HL7.  In
any event, here are the promised HL7 element-related URLs.  
HL7 has a formal vocabulary page. 
https:/
/www.hl7.org/library/data-model/RIM/C30202/vocabulary.htm#voc-contents  

- Jules